Julien's Auction by Michael Lee Bush

I live in Japan.

MJ's exhibition held from 18th October to 12th November in　Tokyo.

It was the preview of Julien's Auction.

Although I don't like the auction,I went to the exhibition.

MJ's costumes were beautiful.

There were also Michael family's costumes of their childhood.

The commercial of the exhibition was huge in Japan.

It was told ' last chance to see MJ costumes'.

and those costumes are own by MLB.

Is it true?

when Michael was died,were those costumes own by MLB?

miwa wrote:I live in Japan.

MJ's exhibition held from 18th October to 12th November in　Tokyo.

It was the preview of Julien's Auction.

Although I don't like the auction,I went to the exhibition.

MJ's costumes were beautiful.

There were also Michael family's costumes of their childhood.

The commercial of the exhibition was huge in Japan.

It was told ' last chance to see MJ costumes'.

and those costumes are own by MLB.

Is it true?

when Michael was died,were those costumes own by MLB?

Not it is not entirely true. Michael gave Bush items for safe keeping because they weren't safe where Michael was. It's a bit of a long story, there's a lot more to it so I will direct you to this site. TeamMichael has quite a lot of info regarding this matter and much more info in general too.
http://teammichaeljackson.com/juliens-auctions not sure this link will work. Not every forum is them same.

Thanks for your retun.
I'll try to see your directed site.

christeljulia wrote:

miwa wrote:I live in Japan.

MJ's exhibition held from 18th October to 12th November in　Tokyo.

It was the preview of Julien's Auction.

Although I don't like the auction,I went to the exhibition.

MJ's costumes were beautiful.

There were also Michael family's costumes of their childhood.

The commercial of the exhibition was huge in Japan.

It was told ' last chance to see MJ costumes'.

and those costumes are own by MLB.

Is it true?

when Michael was died,were those costumes own by MLB?

Not it is not entirely true. Michael gave Bush items for safe keeping because they weren't safe where Michael was. It's a bit of a long story, there's a lot more to it so I will direct you to this site. TeamMichael has quite a lot of info regarding this matter and much more info in general too.
http://teammichaeljackson.com/juliens-auctions not sure this link will work. Not every forum is them same.

You're welcome, miwa !

when MJ was died if the costumes' owner was MJ himself,
It was moved to MJ estate.
MLB released the book 'king of style'.
I think MLB was used for auctions commercial by MJ estate,to exchange it.

christeljulia wrote:You're welcome, miwa !

http://www.ripoffreport.com/juliens-auctions/celebrities/internet-internet-09c05.htm
Juliens Auctions Darren Julien OVER 200 Michael FORGERIES Internet

Michael Signing Styles in Julien's Tompkins and Bush Sale

On December 2, Julien's Auctions is selling The Collection of Tompkins and Bush. The collection contains 465 lots of Michael memorabilia, 294 of them autographed by him. Michael Bush and the late Dennis Tompkins were Michael's
costume designers for 25 years, during Michael's most successful period. They were the consignors of the signed Thriller jacket that Julien's sold for $1,800,000 in June 2011

At least 250 signatures are forgeries, we have had expert evaluation! see discussion here, multiple samples of Michael's signatures posted, none match those in Juliens auctions catalog..


there is a very good reason you are not familiar with this "version" of Michael's signature. That is because these are NOT Michael's signatures. They are BLATANT FORGERIES. TO BE CLEAR: These items, publicly advertised in Julien’s 2012 Thompkins-Bush Michael auction catalog are OVERT FORGERIES and are NOT Michael’s genuine signature! 1.) PAGE AFTER PAGE in the Julien’s 2012 Bush-Michael auction catalog of signatures with an awkward, amateurish looking “loop” on the N in Michael - the last letter of the last name. NOTE: Michael DID NOT SIGN THE “N” in HIS LAST NAME “Michael’ with this awkward, amateurish “loop”. 2.) Michael used 3 different styles of “J” in Michael over the years. Single Line J, Line and Swoop J (or Two Swoop), and Single Swoop J.

When MJ used the "two swoop" style J in Michael, HE did it with STYLE, FLUIDITY, ELEGANCE and GRACE, there are heavy and light strokes and you can tell he produced the signature QUICKLY - just like we all do when signing OUR OWN NAME.

Conversely, ALL! the forged J's in Julien’s upcoming 12/2/12 auction are COMPLETELY without FLOW, STYLE and GRACE. They are HEAVY and CLUNKY and AMATEUR looking. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER DECREPANCIES CLEARLY MANIFESTED IN THE JULIEN’S AUCTION FORGERIES. They show HESITATION MARKS where the forger slowed up their hand movement to THINK about what to do NEXT. Every person’s signature, while retaining its own overall unique “fingerprint”, shows slight variations based on day, month, year, situation, mood, etc. NOTE: There is NO variation to these fraudulent “signatures“ being advertised for sale by Julien‘s. CLEARLY, the signatures were mass produced and NOT done over the years, as is
being represented by Darren Julien and Michael Bush. As someone with an astute eye for detail, I have diligently studied
Michael’s signature and handwriting style for several years. I have done extensive research through PSA/DNA, PAAS, JSA, Autograph Magazine and have monitored eBay auctions of both genuine and forged Michael signatures, on a regular basis for several years. I KNOW I've seen forgeries by this SAME forger as the Julien’s “signatures” all over eBay for 2-3 years up until very recently. Interestingly, I can no longer find any active or completed auctions on eBay by this forger.
Notably, the hat on page 184 of Julien’s catalog - the forgery on the Budapest police hat - I KNOW FOR A FACT that I saw a hat JUST LIKE THIS WITH THE SAME OBVIOUS FORGERY FOR SALE ON EBAY RECENTLY - within the last 2-3 weeks. THAT TOO HAS BEEN REMOVED from the ebay database.
I MUST TELL YOU that the HUNDREDS of fake signatures being passed off by Julien’s Auctions and Michael Bush in their upcoming anticipated Sell Off of Illegal “merchandize” are some of the most shamelessly AMATEUR forgeries of Michael’s signature that I have ever seen. ALL THE TELL TALE SIGNS OF A FORGERY ARE PRESENT ON EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF THESE ITEMS. The massive quantity and obviously POOR QUALITY of these fake Michael autographs, along with ALL of the involved Person’s brazenness to do this IN THE STARK LIGHT OF DAY.. IS UTTERLY SHOCKING.
THIS AUCTION MUST NOT TAKE PLACE!
PLEASE express your opinion as to not recognizing the Julien's signature "examples" as those of ANY genuine Michael signature you have EVER seen to Twitter accounts: @JuliensAuctions @tompkinsandbush @MJonlineteam - AND via email to:
info@juliensauctions.com
PLEASE ASK THE PARTIES INVOLVED TO STOP THIS AUCTION! Thank you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/michael-Michael-signing-styles-in-juliens-tompkins-and-bush-sale?xg_source=msg_com_forum&id=3524372%3ATopic%3A308435&page=1#comments

miwa wrote:when MJ was died if the costumes' owner was MJ himself,
It was moved to MJ estate.
MLB released the book 'king of style'.
I think MLB was used for auctions commercial by MJ estate,to exchange it.

I have also had this thought.

Could you tell me that If you knew.
Had Michael put up his costumes for any auction by himself?

Imagen wrote:

miwa wrote:when MJ was died if the costumes' owner was MJ himself,
It was moved to MJ estate.
MLB released the book 'king of style'.
I think MLB was used for auctions commercial by MJ estate,to exchange it.

I have also had this thought.

There was a dispute over a planned auction of all Neverland items in 2009, which included clothing. A law suit was issued by MJJ Productions against Julien's to stop the auction. Julien's refused to back down. The auction was cancelled at the last minute though. According to Randall Sullivan's book, Tohme Tohme, paid Julien's a sum of money for costs and a percentage of lost revenue, which resulted in the auction being cancelled.

From Sullivan's book:
"Darren Julien, meanwhile, refused to back down, and scheduled an exhibition of 1,390 lots of property from Neverland beginning on April 14. That very day, literally at the last minute, the dispute was settled when Tohme presented Julien with a cashier’s check for the full amount he demanded."

MJ had nothing to do with the auction of the "Bush and Tompkins collection" of course.

My own belief is that MJ would not have wanted to auction off his iconic clothing and that he would one day want his fans to be able to view these items in a museum-style situation as part of his fabulous history.

Thank you! I got it! Actually I'm blamed by a fan who support BUSH.

Imagen wrote:There was a dispute over a planned auction of all Neverland items in 2009, which included clothing. A law suit was issued by MJJ Productions against Julien's to stop the auction. Julien's refused to back down. The auction was cancelled at the last minute though. According to Randall Sullivan's book, Tohme Tohme, paid Julien's a sum of money for costs and a percentage of lost revenue, which resulted in the auction being cancelled.

From Sullivan's book:
"Darren Julien, meanwhile, refused to back down, and scheduled an exhibition of 1,390 lots of property from Neverland beginning on April 14. That very day, literally at the last minute, the dispute was settled when Tohme presented Julien with a cashier’s check for the full amount he demanded."

MJ had nothing to do with the auction of the "Bush and Tompkins collection" of course.

My own belief is that MJ would not have wanted to auction off his iconic clothing and that he would one day want his fans to be able to view these items in a museum-style situation as part of his fabulous history.

That happens but we have the right to reach our own opinions based on what we see, hear and read, and also feel in our own hearts.

I feel warm in my heart by your word!

Imagen wrote:That happens but we have the right to reach our own opinions based on what we see, hear and read, and also feel in our own hearts.

Bush was still "available" when NBC started investigating because they have a very short clip of Bush making his lame responses. notice that there was no righteous indignation. he seemed scared, and like he shriveled out of fear. and the next thing he does is to go traipsing all over promoting his book. Julien's is also choosing whom to respond to, but there are no press conferences or statements, no strong words to say that they are insulted by such "rumors" and that they will immediately launch a full-scale investigation...nothing...nada.

however, in both the Chandler and Arvizo cases, Michael faced the world to issue his strong statements. no fear, no trepidation, no skirting of the issue.

just sayin'

http://www.carltonbooks.co.uk/books/products/michael-Michael-the-personal-collection


Michael: The Personal Collection

Author: Darren Julien & Martin Nolan

Michael is the undisputed King of Pop and Michael: The Personal Collection is the only book to take you inside his world. This book features exclusive and never-before- seen photographs of Neverland and Michael's final home, 100 North Carolwood Drive, as well as hundreds of personal items, such as handwritten lyrics, notes Michael wrote to himself and to his PA, costumes Michael wore on stage, furniture commissioned by Michael and sketches he drew. Accompanied by thoroughly researched information about each piece and interviews with those who knew him, The World of Michael gets closer to the man and his world than ever before.

Author Bio

Darren Julien is the founder of Julien's Auctions, which has dominated the entertainment memorabilia market since its inception. Darren has successfully orchestrated major marketing campaigns for sales and regularly appears on television on The Today Show, Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood, the BBC and many other high profile news outlets. Martin Nolan is the Chief Financial Officer and Executive Director for Julien's Auctions. He is responsible for expanding the business in the growing markets of India, China and and Japan.


unbelievable

I wonder what, if any, of Michael's personal items are in the possession of his children.